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     3-30-13 Education in the News - Dept of Education-State Budget, Autism Rates in NJ
     3-20-12 Education Issues in the News
     GSCS State Budget FY 2012-2013 Testimony
     3-11-12 Education Issues in the News
     2-29-12 NJTV on NJ School Funding...and, Reporters' Roundtable back on the aire
     2-26-12 State budget, School Elections, and Federal Grant funds for local reform initiatives
     2-24-12 Headlines from around NJ - from Google (hit on nj education-nj budget)
     2-23-12 Education in the News - Education reform noted in state budget message; Facebook grant to Newark teachers
     2-23-12 State Aid Figures Released late today: GSCS Statement
     STATE AID DISTRICT LIST - PROPOSED for FY 2012-2013
     Education Funding Report on School Funding Reform Act (SFRA) issued 2-23-12
     Text of Gov. Christie's State Budget Message, given Feb. 21, 2012
     2-22-12 School Aid in State Budget Message - Is There a Devil in the Details
     2-21-12 State Budget Message for Fiscal Year 2012-2013
     FY'12 State School Aid District-by-District Listing, per Appropriations Act, released 110711
     GSCS Take on Governor's Budget Message for FY'12
     GSCS 3-7-11Testimony on State Budget as Proposed by the Governor for FY'12 before the Senate Budget Committee
     Gov's Budget Message for Fiscal Year 2011-2012 Today, 2pm
     GSCS FYI
     2-7-11Grassroots at Work in the Suburbs
     1-13-11 Supreme Court Appoints Special Master for remand Hearing
     1-20-11 GSCS Testimony before Senator Buono's Education Aid Impact hearing in Edison
     NOTE: FOR CURRENT INFO ON STATE BUDGET FY'11, GO TO LINK ON LEFT SIDEBAR '2010-2011 STATE BUDGET'
     GSCS FYI - GSCS will be testifying onTuesday in Bergen County on the State Budget
     3-17-10 Budget News - Gov. Chris Christie proposes sacrifices
     3-15-10mid-day: 'Gov. Christie plans to cut NJ school aid by $800M'
     3-14-10 'Christie will propose constitutional amendment to cap tax hikes in N.J. budget'
     3-15-10 'N.J. taxpayers owe pension fund $45.8 billion' The Record
     3-3-10 'Public Education in N.J.: Acting NJ Comm of Educ Bret Schundler says 'Opportunity'
     2-24-10 'Tight funds raise class sizes that districts long sought to cut'
     2-22-10 Christie and unions poised to do batttle over budget cuts'
     2-22-10 Trenton Active Today
     2-19-10 'Acting NJ education commissioner hoping other savings can ward off cuts'
     2-16-10 'Christie Adopts Corzine Cuts, Then Some'
     2-14-10 'FAQ's on NJ's state of fiscal emergency declaration by Gov. Christie'
     2-12-10 Assembly Budget hearing posted for this Wednesday, Feb. 17
     2-12-10 News Coverage: Governor Christie's message on actions to address current fiscal year state budget deficits
     FY2010 Budget Solutions - PRESS PACKET
     School Aid Withheld Spreadsheet
     State Aid 2010 Reserve Calculation and Appeal Procedures
     State Aid Memo (2-11-10) 2 pgs
     2-11-10 Gov Christie address to Joint Session of the Legislature on state budget and current year aid reduction remains scheduled for today
     2-10-10 'Schools are likely targets for NJ budget cuts'
     2-9-10 News article posted this morning notes potential for large loss of current year school aid
     2-8-10 'School leaders around N.J. wait and worry over state aid figures'
     1-28-10 School Surplus plan to supplant State Aid in this year gaining probability
     1-21-10'N.J.'s Christie won't rule out layoffs, furloughs to close unexpected $1.2B deficit'
     2005 Archive
     1-18-10 Advance news on 'Christie as new Governor'
     GSCS to speak at Tri-District 'Open' meeting in Monmouth on January 27
     12-15-09 GSCS is working with the Christie Transition Team
     11-29-09 Ramifications - News of NJ's fiscal realities
     Codey bill allows Budget Message to be delayed until March 16, 2010
     6-26-09 Executive Director to GSCS Trustees; Wrap Up Report - State Budget and Assembly bills this week
     6-26-09 NJ State Budget Passed late Thursday night
     6-19-09 a.m. GSCS 'Quick' FYI - State Budget Vote delayed to Thursday, June 25
     6-18-09 Deocrats say they have the votes to pass the State Budget today
     6-16-09 News from Trenton on State Budget in Senate and Assembly Budget Committees yesterday
     APPROPRIATIONS ACT FY2009-1020 as introduced
     A4100-S2010 Appropriations Act 'Scoresheet' and Language Changes released
     5-14-09 GSCS Heads Up - State Aid payments to be delayed into next Fiscal Year
     5-19-09 Treasurer David Rousseau announces additional round of cuts to Gov's proposed State Budget FY2009-2010
     4-5-09 The Record, Sunday April 5, Front Page Opinion
     Latest Title 1 'preliminary' funding under the ARRA 3-09
     Latest website filing by the USDOE on Title 1 funding
     3-13-09 Information to Districts re: Federal Stimulus- Additional Title 1 and IDEA funding information still not ready for distribution
     3-11-09 CORZINE BUDGET ADDRESS: STATE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS A LITTLE MORE NOT LESS - FEDERAL TITLE 1 & IDEA INCREASES YET TO BE COUNTED - STATE SCHOOL AID FIGURES ON DEPT OF ED WEBSITE 1:30 TODAY - RELATED ARTICLES, MORE...
     3-10-09 GOVERNOR TO DELIVER STATE BUDGET MESSAGE TODAY - SCHOOL AID FIGURES TO BE RELEASED BY THURSDAY LATEST
     2-24-09 State Budget & Stimulus News of Note
     2-23-09 S-15 (Buono) Pension Deferral bill up for a vote in the Sentate today
     2-19-09 Federal stimulus - information re: Education funding in 'State Fiscal Stabilization' part of the package
     2-18-09 Corzine announces more cuts, more deficit
     NJ District listing, Title One & IDEA under federal stimulus law
     2-3-09 Corzine to unveil new cuts when he offers 2010 budget
     1-23-09 Schools get an eduction in thrift
     1-17-09 GSCS EMAILNET & SCHOOL FUNDING OVERVIEW
     1-16-09 Today's news notes state budget waiting on Obama stimulus package
     1-15-09 HEADS UP - Budget Message date to be delayed now to March 12
     1-14-09 Meeting with Mayors, Corzine warns of cuts
     1-9-09 State Senator requests education committee hearing on potential school funding cuts
     12-28-08 NY Times 'Pension Fight Signals What Lies Ahead'
     11-25-08 Perspective piece criticizes recent Supreme Court Abbott decision
     6-24-08 State Budget passed yesterday, as did the School Construction, Pension Reform, and Affordable Housing bills
     6-23-08 A2873-S1457 School Construction bills up for vote today, along with State Budget FY09
     6-20-08 State Budget stalls, school construction is one obstacle
     A2800 - Proposed State Budget bill released 6-17-08
     6-17-08 Legislature and Governor agree on State Budget FY09
     GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET Fiscal Year 2009...INFO
     Office of Leg Services Analysis of Gov's Education budget FY09
     GSCS & NJ Spec. Educ.Funding Coalition on STATE FUNDING FOR EXTRAORDINARY COST FY09 issues & beyond
     6-9-08 GSCS Quick Facts: TRENTON FOCUS THIS WEEK
     3-19-08 GSCS Testimony on State Budget for Fiscal Year 2008-2009
     2-26-08 Governor Corzine's Budget Message for Fiscal Year 2008-2009
     6-29-07 Lots of news affecting NJ, its schools and communities this week - STATE BUDGET signed - LIST OF LINE ITEM VETOES - US SUPREME CT RULING impacts school desgregation - SPECIAL EDUCATION GROUPS file suit against state
     6-14-07 Revisions to State Budget filed today
     4-4-07 N Y Times, front page 'NJ Pension Fund Endangered by Diverted Billions'
     3-15-07 State eases at risk aid restrictions & 25% members of NJ Senate retiring (so far)
     3-13-07 GSCS Testimony on State Budget FY'08
     GRASSROOTS SPEAK UP re State Aid for FY07-08 & Recent Legislation that can negatively impact school communities
     Hearings Schedule for State Budget FY07-08
     3-1-07 Emerging Devil showing up in the details
     2-27-07 GSCS welcomes that state aid increases for regular operating districts helps lower & some middle income districts - will persevere to see that the state extends its share of support to education more fully to all districts
     2-23-07 News Articles re Gov's Budget Proposal
     2-22-07 GSCS EMAILNET re Gov's Budget Message
     2-22-07 Gov's Budget Message Link & Related News Articles
     2-22-07 GSCS Press Release: Governor Corzine's Budget Message today
     2-22-07 Governor Corzine's Budget Message today
     2-16 to 2-19 New Articles of Note
     2-14-07 GSCS letter to Gov Corzine & Commr of Education Davy - Request for State Aid FY0708
     NJ Assembly Session FY06 Budget Debate Majority Leader Joe Roberts standing
     7-12-06 Column on State Budget legislator items
     7-11-06 Appropriations Act bill
     7-9&10-06 State Budget news articles -wrap up & news analyses
     7-9-06 Sunday New York Times
     7-8-06 FY07 Budget approved - 19.5 in spec ed grants stays in
     7-7-06 Afternoon Friday - budget document awaiting
     7-7-06 EMAILNET - AGREEMENT ON STATE BUDGET REACHED, impt 'details' still being finalized
     7-7-06 AGREEMENT ON STAE BUDGET REACHED, impt 'details' still being finalized
     7-3-06 Roberts, Codey & Corzine still not on same page
     6-30-06 State Budget news - as the dissonance must be resolved
     6-29-06 GSCS 'QUICKNET FYI' Update on State Budget for FY 2007
     6-29-06 Mirroring the elements, State Budget looking like a 'natural disaster'
     6-25-06 State Budget issues:legislative branches conflict - news articles
     6-14-06 Assembly Minority Budget Leader Joe Malone's Op Ed
     Editorial on benefit of using UEZ surplus for spec educ aid for this year
     6-12-06 EMAILNET - Extraordinary Special Education student aid; FY07 Budget 'crunch' is on; news clips
     Weekend News Clips re Property Tax & School Funding issues
     GSCS 15th Annual Breakfast Meeting Program Info Update
     5-16-06 EMAILNET Action in Trenton
     5-10-06 EMAILNET
     5-10-06 A Lot is going on - Major News fromTrenton
     5-9-06 Supreme Ct freezes aid & Asm Budget Comm grills DOE Commissioner
     News articles
     TRENTON RALLY PROPOSED (late morning) Thurs JUNE 8
     3-28-06 GSCS testimony before Assembly Budget Comm today
     Legislative Calendar during State Budget FY07 process
     4-17-06 EMAILNET
     4-16-06 Star Ledger editorial & article re Gov v. Abbott from 4-15-06
     40-16-06 Gannett & Asbury Park Press on School Budget election issues
     4-16-06 Sunday NY Times Metro Section, front page
     Governor Corzine takes steps towards major policy initiatives.
     3-28 & 4-3-06 GSCS FY07 testimony before Senate & Assembly Budget Comm
     Grassroots at work - Ridgewood Board member testimony of FY07
     4-8-06 Corzine Administration files brief with Supreme Court re Abbott funding
     4-7-06 The Record
     3-31-06 AP 'Budget idea puts onus on income taxes, businesses'
     3-29-06 EMAILNET State Budget FY07 Hearings Update
     3-24-06 EMAILNET FYI Update on Gov Corzine's Budget FY07
     3-24-06 Schools learn who wins, loses in Corzine budget
     3-23-06 Corzine says some Abbotts can raise taxes
     3-22-06 News Article sampling on Governor's Proposed FY07 Budget
     3-22-06 EMAILNET Governor Corzine's Budget Message
     Governor's 3-21-06 Budget message & hard copy links
     3-15-06 News articles on FY07
     3-10-06 Star Ledger 'Time is ripe for poorer districts to contribute.
     EMAILNET 3-9-06 to South Jersey districts
     3-7-06 More articles on the Gov's Budget Summit and School Board members fo to Trenton
     3-7-06 Articles on Gov's Budget Summit and School Board members off to Trenton
     3-4-06 Star Ledger Interest groups to address budget
     3- 4-06 Trenton Times Likey state aid cuts frustrating districts
     3-3-06 EMAILNET Budget Discussions begin in earnest
     7-14-05 EMAILNET Record article & today's editorial re politics & inequity in school aid and S1701: Update
     Check it out - The Press of Atlantic City 7-6-05 Education Funds lie in Budget Fine Print
     3-1-06 EMAILNET State Budget FY07, Health Benefits
     2-24-06 Trenton Times - Higher schools taxes needed
     School Budget Guidelines released 2-21-07
     2-11-06 Trenton Timesn'NJ State Budget has little wiggle room'
     2-1-06 EMAILNET GSCS Advocacy FY07 Budget; On the Homepage Today
     FUNDING HISTORY - May 27 1998 - Education Week article re Abbott V - funding above parity
     2003 GSCS letter to legislators
     Star Ledger 6-29-05 Bid to Save Tax Rebates Imperils NJ Budget
     Rebate Debate on Budget for FY06
     Public Information available at New Jersey website
     S2558 Bill to provide $19.9M in Abbott aid to additional districts
     GSCS Advocacy for State Budget FY06
     GSCS Testimony: State Budget Fiscal Year 2006
3-7-06 More articles on the Gov's Budget Summit and School Board members fo to Trenton

Cash-strapped schools beseech N.J. for relief

District tax hikes, program cuts possible

Tuesday, March 07, 2006

By LARRY HANOVER

Staff Writer

Ewing school board members, besieged at a recent budget hearing by hundreds fearing higher taxes, told how layoffs might be necessary to stave off the tax possibility.

South Brunswick school board members spoke of having to eliminate a bus route, forcing elementary students to walk nearly a mile to school.

And Hopewell Valley Regional school board members said their music program, winner of national acclaim, faces cuts, while vice principal jobs at all district elementary schools face elimination.

Local legislators got an education yesterday at a New Jersey School Boards Association conference on the mounting effects of years without increased state aid to schools, with some calling it the worst budget season in recent memory.

"It's sort of a little taxation civil war," Ewing Superintendent Raymond Broach told Sen. Shirley Turner, D-Lawrence, during a session with the lawmaker at the State House.

In a letter to districts Friday, the state Department of Education told school leaders to prepare 2006-07 budgets as if state-aid levels were to remain stable but warned that cuts were possible.

In unscheduled remarks yesterday, Gov. Jon Corzine told the school boards association he would try to keep aid as close as possible to current levels as he deals with a projected $4.5 billion revenue gap.

But lawmakers, who later held sessions with small groups of school board members in their legislative districts, heard repeatedly that consequences will be severe if aid is cut in 2006-07, with level funding providing only minor solace.

"I hate to be begging for flat funding, but I really am," said Ewing board member Candace Mueller.

"Maybe that's the game, so you'll be happy that it's flat," Turner responded.

Aid levels, now at $6.9 billion, have not been cut since 1990. For all but the poorest districts, 2006-07 will mark the fourth year in the last five with no significant aid increases.

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Many districts not represented at yesterday's conference face severe budgetary challenges as well:

-- Washington Township has proposed a 34-cent tax rate increase, which would cost $578 for the owner of an average-priced home because of skyrocketing enrollment and the opening of Robbinsville High School.

-- Princeton Regional is considering laying off 10 employees, none of them teachers.

-- Hamilton is looking at trimming benefits and cutting costs to take care of facilities.

"With cuts in state aid, if they do come to pass, you will see cuts to programs," said Frank Belluscio, president of the New Jersey School Boards Association. "You will see higher property taxes. It's a very serious situation out there."

Lynne Strickland of the Garden State Coalition of Schools said districts across New Jersey are not only making cuts but proposing fees for students to participate in extracurricular activities.

Ewing school board members were still reeling from a budget session two weeks ago where hundreds of residents demanded the recall of the all-Democrat council and Democratic Mayor Wendell Pribila over a 25 percent municipal tax increase.

The board pledged to try to hold the line on the school tax rate but faces tough choices in cutting jobs and programs, said board member Mary Lou Kramli.

"We're afraid the ire's going to be taken out on us," Kramli said.

Hopewell Valley board members expressed displeasure at having to make cuts to stay in line with state budgetary restrictions.

This year, elementary schools went from full-time vice principals to individuals who split time between those duties and others. Now, the district plans to have no elementary school vice principals at all, meaning less supervision, said board member Linda Mitchell. Job cuts are possible, too.

"That's a scary, scary thing," Mitchell said.

Hopewell Valley's health costs have risen by 93 percent since 2001, and special-education costs by 62 percent, she said.

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In a session with Assemblywoman Linda Greenstein, D-Plainsboro, Monroe school board member Kathy Kolupanowich said even maintaining funding levels is actually a cut. Her district has gained 1,400 students in four years.

"We're raising our property taxes to give the same quality of education as four years ago," she said.

South Brunswick board members complained about a law that limits districts' surplus to 2 percent and restricts budget increases.

To get down to the surplus limit, the district used $4 million for property-tax relief, said board member Martin Abschutz. Now, the district must continue to find that $4 million each year, yet it has no surplus to tap, he said.

Greenstein agreed with board members' calls for a special legislative session, constitutional convention or both on the property tax issue.

In the meeting with Turner, Trenton school board members sat quietly as she spoke of ending a state-aid system where urban districts, whose aid levels have continued to rise because of the requirements of the Abbott vs. Burke court rulings, and suburban districts are treated differently.

Afterward, board member Garry Feltus said Turner's point was legitimate. Yet, he said, he doesn't feel anyone should point fingers at the so-called Abbott districts for causing a property tax imbalance. Districts such as Trenton get pinched, too, he said.

"Every year we have a fight with the Department of Education (over aid)," Feltus said. "They cut us, and (the district winds up) in court."

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Contact Larry Hanover at lhanover@njtimes.com or at (609) 989-5726.

March 7, 2006

Spending Cuts Alone Won't Balance the Budget, Corzine Says

By DAVID W. CHEN

NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J., March 6 — In his strongest hint that New Jersey residents and business may soon face higher taxes, Gov. Jon S. Corzine said on Monday that the state would be unable to cut spending enough to compensate for a projected multibillion-dollar budget shortfall.

Mr. Corzine made his remarks at a daylong conference on the budget here at Rutgers University, as he prepared to embark on a three-day series of town hall meetings around the state to discuss New Jersey's troubled budget, which faces a deficit of nearly $5 billion.

The governor said rooting out waste was the preferred route to balancing the budget. A former co-chairman of Goldman Sachs and United States senator who has installed former Wall Street professionals and Washington policy experts in key positions in his administration, Mr. Corzine promised to "bring discipline to that process that I think is relatively new in the context of the budget."

Even so, he cautioned, the state would be unable to hold the growth in its spending to "zero," because of the rising costs of pensions, health benefits and debt service.

"Yes, there are cuts available, and we're going to work at that in the most serious manner possible," Mr. Corzine said. But "anybody who's reasonable would have to say," he continued, "the probability of that being enough to close that gap, on a structural basis, is not likely."

Mr. Corzine is scheduled to unveil his first budget on March 21. Since taking office on Jan. 17, he has warned that the state is in precarious fiscal health because of misbegotten decisions made by previous administrations, both Democratic and Republican.

In his planned statewide tour this week, Mr. Corzine, a Democrat, hopes to accomplish three things: to explain just how grim the state's finances are, to solicit suggestions to improve those finances, and to hint at what solutions he may have in mind so the public is prepared.

"There needs to be a dialogue so that people understand these choices that we're talking about are not free," he said. "They come with real costs."

He scheduled the first town hall meeting on Tuesday night at Montclair State University, followed on succeeding nights by meetings at Monmouth and Rowan Universities.

The meeting here, billed as a "budget summit" and titled "Restructuring New Jersey's Government," attracted nearly 400 policy experts, educators and business executives.

There were PowerPoint slides, complete with pie charts and bullet points. One slide, from Bradley I. Abelow, the new state treasurer, read, "More than $16 billion of onetime revenues and pension contribution deferrals cannot and should not continue."

Another chart, with the dire words "The budget gap is not a one-year phenomenon," estimated that absent any policy changes, the state's expenditures would grow by $750 million to $1.25 billion each year.

Even so, Mr. Corzine noted that his budget would constitute only the first move before a balanced budget is due on July 1, the start of the fiscal year.

"The real work ahead of us is negotiating with the Legislature, which undoubtedly is not going to like a lot of the things that we lay down at the table," he said.

Indeed, legislators and several watchdog organizations have already criticized Mr. Corzine's first major fiscal proposal, unveiled two weeks ago, to replenish New Jersey's depleted fund for road and bridge maintenance by refinancing $1.8 billion of the fund's debt.

On Monday, Republican legislators unveiled their own plan, which taps the general fund. In addition, the Regional Planning Association blasted Mr. Corzine's proposal, saying it "mortgages New Jersey's future, and will require that we raise enormous taxes in five years just to keep the transportation system from falling apart."

But when Mr. Corzine was asked by a reporter whether he was concerned about being "vilified" for his decisions, he seemed unfazed.

"You get to do the kind of thing that I'm doing once in life, and you try to best job you can," he said.

Corzine out to brace state for fiscal pain
He hit the road for a weeklong series of "budget dialogues" to prepare the public for difficult choices.

Inquirer Trenton Bureau

Gov. Corzine to New Jersey: Get ready for a rough ride.

Two weeks before presenting what will certainly be a painful budget, Corzine launched a weeklong road show yesterday to spell out the state's ugly financial situation for the public.

"There should be no question in people's minds that there's a gap to fill," the former Wall Street mogul told several hundred lobbyists, educators and special-interest representatives at a summit at Rutgers University.

Panelist Michael Horn, who was state treasurer from 1984 to 1986 under Republican Gov. Tom Kean, said some kind of permanent or temporary tax increase was inevitable.

"There will be pain," he said to the gathering. "Adjustments in revenue will absolutely be necessary."

Corzine would not say which tax increases he might be considering. He did repeatedly emphasize, however, that cutting government waste alone would not fill a projected budget gap of more than $4 billion.

State Treasurer Bradley Abelow, a former Goldman Sachs colleague of Corzine's, added that even eliminating the entire state payroll would not plug the hole.

New Jersey's "treadmill" of borrowing to live beyond its means must end, he said. The state's projected expenses are growing faster than inflation, resulting in a budget gap that will widen by at least $750 million annually.

The state must reexamine its biggest expenditures - health care, education, and employee benefits, Abelow said in a financial presentation.

Corzine's "budget dialogues" this week will include one Thursday in Glassboro. He plans to present his budget to the Legislature on March 21.

"There's a real problem here, and it needs to be addressed... . It needs to be spelled out so people understand the choices you're making," Corzine told reporters.

Cost-cutting measures the administration is studying include slashing inefficiencies in Medicaid and using the state's purchasing power to cut better deals for pharmaceuticals, he said.

Corzine also said he still hoped to fully fund the state's pension system this year - as he pledged during the campaign - though some lawmakers do not believe the state can afford such an expenditure.

To address the budget challenge, the governor's advisers have recommended expanding the sales tax to legal services and online purchases and potentially taxing 401(k) contributions.

William Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey State League of Municipalities, called the day "a very harsh reality check. It was the first time I've ever heard the chief executive of this state have a frank conversation with the public" about its difficult financial picture.

Dressel said he was concerned that Corzine would reduce state property-tax relief to municipalities, which he said would result in a greater burden on lower-income taxpayers.

George Hawkins, executive director of the smart-growth group New Jersey Future, said Corzine's presentation left him with too many questions.

"You didn't get a notion of what the solutions were," Hawkins said.

Corzine at Rowan

Gov. Corzine plans a "budget dialogue" at 7 p.m. Thursday at Rowan University's Student Center Building, 201 Mullica Hill Rd., Glassboro. To reserve a spot, call 609-984-7819. For Treasurer Bradley Abelow's report on the state's finances and other information about the budget, visit http://nj.gov/

budget06/dialogues/.


Contact staff writer Elisa Ung at 609-989-9016 or eung@phillynews.com.

 

 

Corzine gets an earful on budget
The Record   
Tuesday, March 7, 2006

By ELISE YOUNG
STAFF WRITER



NEW BRUNSWICK -- From the early days of his campaign, Governor Corzine warned anyone who would listen about a multibillion-dollar deficit in the upcoming state budget.

On Monday, it was his turn to listen. Before an audience of 250, a handful of his own Cabinet members told him they could do little to reduce spending in individual departments. And audience members told the former Wall Street chief executive a thing or two about money management.

"If aid to municipalities is cut, towns can do two things: They can increase property taxes, they can cut services," said Susan Bass Levin, commissioner of the Department of Community Affairs.

Lisa Jackson, commissioner of the Department of Environmental Protection, said the state Forest Fire Service has too few employees and outdated equipment. Fish and wildlife programs, once sustained by user fees, no longer are self-sufficient.

"If we eliminated [charity care], we would push urban hospitals toward fiscal collapse," said Fred Jacobs, commissioner of Health and Senior Services. As for disaster preparedness, "there's no room in there for any deductions."

Corzine wasn't swayed.

"There are things that can be cut," he said.

The governor was presiding over the first of this week's four forums on the 2007 budget crisis. The goal is to engage policymakers, elected officials and everyday taxpayers on the looming financial disaster -- and to solicit their ideas for fending it off for good.

Part of the forum focused on expanding the economy by bolstering the tax base. That's when the audience -- mostly policymakers and academics -- told Corzine that New Jersey's cash-flow problems run deep.

Rutgers workforce expert Carl Van Horn said employers interested in moving to New Jersey are scared off by the state's reputation as a tough place to do business.

"We've got a real image problem," he said.

Larry Miller, a Department of Environmental Protection program specialist, said he has tried for three years to bring a solar-energy manufacturer to New Jersey. But the competition for such business is international, he said, and the state can't compete on the cost of labor and land.

An audience member said the products of the state's poorly performing urban schools likely won't hold good jobs. Another said the pay-to-play political system, even if curbed at the state level, continues to operate in "petty fiefdoms," driving up costs for all but the well-connected.

The current budget is about $28 billion. Corzine has said the state could fall short by as much as $6 billion, but Treasury Commissioner Bradley I. Abelow on Monday estimated the figure is closer to $4.6 billion.

Corzine, who is to give his budget address in two weeks, gave no specifics on where cuts will be made.

Participants said they were grateful just to be heard.

"I like this no-holds-barred approach. No one's going to feel this isn't a real tough process," said Karen Clark, president and chief executive of Horizon New Jersey Health, the insurer.

"I enjoyed the openness," said Gloria Frederick, director of Rutgers' Institute for Executive Leadership and Diversity. "This is the first time it's been so transparent."

Another budget forum is set for 7 tonight at Montclair State University. For information, call (609) 984-9850.

E-mail: younge@northjersey.com