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NJSpotlight -Debate Report Card: Final Question Addresses Issue of School Vouchers…Christie calls them necessary antidote to ‘failure factories,’ while Buono says desperately needed funds are being diverted

The Record - Christie, Buono square off at debate held at William Paterson… One of the last topics was the option for parents to obtain vouchers to send their children to a private school if they attended a failing public school. Buono wants to reform schools and focus on pre-school education. Christie likes vouchers for failing school districts, saying it provides competition for public schools and a choice for kids "to walk out of failure factories."

Star Ledger - Fact checking the Buono-Christie debate… The facts: Despite cuts Christie enacted amid recession in his first year, total state aid for education is up to a record high of $12.4 billion in the current budget. It was $11.4 billion the year before Christie took office. Direct aid to school districts, what is known as formula aid, is now $7.85 billion. It was $7.9 billion before Christie took office. Christie has also increased aid for vouchers and charter schools, something Buono firmly opposes.

NJSpotlight -Debate Report Card: Final Question Addresses Issue of School Vouchers…Christie calls them necessary antidote to ‘failure factories,’ while Buono says desperately needed funds are being diverted

 

John Mooney | October 9, 2013

 

Through nearly two dozen questions, there was no mention of public schools during last night’s debate between Gov. Chris Christie and state Sen. Barbara Buono.

But in the penultimate question, the candidates were asked about Christie’s support for school vouchers through the proposed Opportunity Scholarship Act and Buono’s opposition to that legislation. And the ensuing exchange ended up summarizing nicely their positions on a couple of education issues.

Here’s the full transcript of that exchange, along with a scorecard ranking who won or who lost – at least on this topic.

Question from Alfred Doblin, editorial page editor, The Record: “If New Jersey were to allow parents to obtain vouchers to attend any public or private schools, would this undermine our system of public education or would it force needed improvements in under-performing districts?”

Buono answer: “It would certainly undermine it. I am a proud graduate of public schools, and this governor’s overreliance on vouchers and his support of vouchers reflects his belief that public schools aren’t worth fixing. He couldn’t be more wrong. I believe you build up our public schools by funding them according to the School Funding Reform Act and close the achievement gap by investing in preschool. We know that’s what works, and it’s not some glorified babysitting.”

Christie answer: “It is very clear to me. We have 200 failing schools in New Jersey, and there is only one candidate on this stage who said that is not a bad percentage, and that was Sen. Buono. We need to change what is going on in failing schools, and I’m an advocate for vouchers in failing school systems to create competition and most importantly to give those parents and those children a choice to walk out of those failure factories and reach their full God-given potential. The interest of children should be put before the interests of adults.”

Buono scorecard: Buono is tapping into a public wariness of school vouchers and, even more, its continued support of the public schools. How far that gets her is arguable, though, as vouchers are gaining support even among Democrats. The last Monmouth University Poll on the topic this summer found that 45 percent of registered Democrats in New Jersey supported the concept of providing financial help to low-income students to leave the worst districts. But education is still a big issue for voters, and both a strength and weakness for Christie. And while he does better with public sentiment on issues of tenure reform and school accountability, vouchers remains a polarizing topic. With her answers last night kept to 30 seconds, Buono also quickly – but vaguely -- referred to Christie’s under-funding of the state’s school funding act, even as he has slowly increased aid to a new high following the drastic cuts of three years ago. And she also very quickly got in a reference to Christie’s comment in his 2009 campaign about preschool as “glorified babysitting,” but those unaware of his earlier remark would have easily missed the connection.

Christie scorecard: Christie has indeed championed a school voucher program for the state that would focus on the lowest performing districts and serve low-income students. Unable to win passage of a more expansive plan that would include up to 30 districts, his latest proposal was for a $2 million appropriation to run a pilot out of one or two districts. That didn’t pass, either. But Christie has said it remains a priority, and he’s now saying it might be something that can pass in the lame duck legislative session after the election. And Buono did indeed say what he contends, about 200 failing schools being a small percentage of the 2,500 schools statewide, even if he’s taking it a little out of context. According to her campaign, her full comment related to what she called his scapegoating of all schools for the failures of a fraction of them. Nevertheless, he has rarely backed off his argument that there are many low-performing schools as determined through state testing – lately calling them “failure factories – and he’s not about to hedge now.

The verdict: The governor continues to tout his education record in New Jersey as one of his prime accomplishments, and he didn’t lose any of his talking points last night. Education is not a bad issue for Buono to emphasize, given Christie’s reform agenda and his battle with teachers unions. But 30 seconds is not a lot of time, and she didn’t draw enough of a clear distinction on the issue beyond her opposition to vouchers.

 

The Record - Christie, Buono square off at debate held at William Paterson One of the last topics was the option for parents to obtain vouchers to send their children to a private school if they attended a failing public school. Buono wants to reform schools and focus on pre-school education. Christie likes vouches for failing school districts, saying it provides competition for public schools and a choice for kids "to walk out of failure factories."

Wednesday October 9, 2013, 10:02 Am by Robin Moran News Editor Wayne Today

WAYNE - Gov. Christie and State Sen. Barbara Buono butted heads at the first gubernatorial debate, held at William Paterson University (WPU) last night. Christie was full of confidence and expressed pride of his work in New Jersey, but Buono compared his practices to Mitt Romney and said she would focus on building up the middle class.

The debate started off with moderator Kristine Johnson, CBS news anchor, asking Buono why her poll numbers have been lagging, and if she would accept endorsement from President Obama. Buono was confident that the 400,000 unemployed New Jerseyans would come out to vote in her favor, without Obama's help.

The candidates were asked if they supported gay marriage. Christie would support gay marriage if it were decided with a ballot. Buono, considering marriage a human right, doesn't believe a majority should decide the fate of a minority.

How to handle a $1 minimum wage increase was debated. Both candidates agreed that the minimum wage should be more than $7.25. Buono called $7.25, as well as an increase to $8.25, a "starvation wage," pointing out that Christie vetoed this wage increase. She said this leads to many being on public assistance and food stamps, and accused Christie of protecting millionaires.

Christie argued that raising the minimum wage too quickly would be irresponsible and could hurt jobs.

"Money doesn't come off a magic money tree," he stated, offering a minimum wage increase over a three-year period.

The candidates also went back and forth about the increase in property taxes. Christie boasted his 2 percent cap on property taxes.

Buono rebutted, "He raised the cruelest tax - on the average working family."

She stated the working family taxes were raised because Christie vetoed millionaires from having to "pay their fair share."

She added that fares on buses and tolls were raised 25 percent, stating it is not an official tax, but has the same effect. Christie said property taxes went up less than 2 percent in the last two years, stating part of the problem is the abuse of sick pay, which has $1 billion pending.

The topic was switched to the Affordable Care Act. Christie defended his choice to not offer a state healthcare plan, stating he is following and enforcing the laws the healthcare reform requires, even though he does not agree with the new laws. He added that hospitals and healthcare centers received more funding, with more residents having access to Medicaid. Buono stated that Christie defunded Planned Parenthood.

The candidates clashed on medical marijuana. Buono doesn't support the legalization of recreational marijuana but wants to decriminalize it in small amounts. Christie said it was fine for medical purposes, but doesn't support decriminalization.

The debate got heated when Johnson asked why New Jersey growth was struggling in employment, tax revenue and personal income. Christie said he got New Jersey when it was "at the bottom of the barrel" and dealing with a $13 billion deficit from ex-Gov. Corzine. He said he cut business taxes and added more private sector jobs. He considers the New Jersey cutback a job that isn't over.

Buono blamed the failing economy on "Romney-style economics."

"Even Mississippi is doing better than us," she argued. "You have to man up. You've been in office for four years."

Buono demanded Christie own his own record. Christie rebutted that Buono voted for all his tax implements and said private sector jobs went down as she was budget chair in 2010.

One of the last topics was the option for parents to obtain vouchers to send their children to a private school if they attended a failing public school. Buono wants to reform schools and focus on pre-school education. Christie likes vouches for failing school districts, saying it provides competition for public schools and a choice for kids "to walk out of failure factories."

The panelists at the debate were Alfred Doblin, editorial page editor, The Record; Chris May, anchor, KYW-TV, Philadelphia; and John Schoonejongen, state editor, Gannett Newspapers.

The event was aired live on WCBS Channel 2 and on radio on WCBS Newsradio 880. It also streamed live on WCBS, KYW and partner newspaper websites.

Montclair State University will host the state's second gubernatorial debate at the university's Kasser Theatre on Tuesday, Oct. 15 from 8 to 9:30 p.m. It will be broadcast statewide on NJTV, New Jersey's public television network. The debate will be moderated by NJ Today's managing editor and anchor Mike Schneider.

Email: mulder@northjersey.com

 

Star Ledger - Fact checking the Buono-Christie debate The facts: Despite cuts Christie enacted amid recession in his first year, total state aid for education is up to a record high of $12.4 billion in the current budget. It was $11.4 billion the year before Christie took office. Direct aid to school districts, what is known as formula aid, is now $7.85 billion. It was $7.9 billion before Christie took office. Christie has also increased aid for vouchers and charter schools, something Buono firmly opposes.

Wednesday, October 9, 2013    By  John Reitmeyer State House BureauRelated: A Jersey slugfest as Christie and Buono trade blame on taxes, economy

From “man up, governor” to “money doesn’t come off a magic money tree,” Governor Christie, a Republican, and Barbara Buono, a Democratic state senator from Middlesex County, had plenty of colorful exchanges in their first debate on Tuesday. Below is a closer look at the issues — and the facts — at the heart of their rhetoric.

Property taxes

Buono said: “He had the largest cut in property-tax relief in state history.”

Christie said: “Let’s remember, property taxes have gone up less than 2 percent for two years in a row.”

The facts: The average New Jersey property tax bill rose to a record high of $7,885 in 2012. The average bill in 2009, the year before Christie took office was $7,281. Compounding the increase for many homeowners has been a reduction in Homestead relief enacted by Christie. The average Homestead relief in 2009 was $1,037. Now it is roughly $475. But the rate of growth in property tax bills has been declining under Christie, and was only 1.6 percent from 2011 to 2012. Average bills rose at a much quicker clip when Democrats, including Buono, controlled both branches of the Legislature and held the governor’s office — at times as high as 7 percent annually.

Economy

Buono said: “We have 400,000 people out of work, the highest unemployment in the region.”

Christie said: “Unemployment was over 10 percent when we became governor. The New Jersey comeback has begun.”

The facts: New Jersey’s unemployment rate was at 9.8 percent in February 2010, Christie’s first full month in office. The unemployment rate has now dropped to 8.5 percent. The state has also seen more than 140,000 private sector jobs created since February 2010. That job growth, however, is only roughly 50 percent of the total amount of the privateand public-sector jobs lost during the last recession. And the national unemployment rate has now dropped to 7.3 percent.

Education

Buono said: “He believes that public schools aren’t worth fixing. He couldn’t be more wrong.”

Christie said: “We need to try and change what’s going on in our failing schools.”

The facts: Despite cuts Christie enacted amid recession in his first year, total state aid for education is up to a record high of $12.4 billion in the current budget. It was $11.4 billion the year before Christie took office. Direct aid to school districts, what is known as formula aid, is now $7.85 billion. It was $7.9 billion before Christie took office. Christie has also increased aid for vouchers and charter schools, something Buono firmly opposes.

Tax policy

Christie said: “We’ve chronicled for the public your 154 votes to raise taxes and fees.”

Buono said: “You raised the cruelest tax of them all, the property tax.”

The facts: Christie has implemented a series of business-tax cuts since taking office, but he also reduced property tax rebates and the Earned Income Tax Credit for low-wage workers. Buono, during her time as a lawmaker, has voted to increase a series of taxes, including the state sales tax, but she also voted for property tax rebates that dwarfed the current level of relief.

Bipartisanship

Christie said: “These aren’t partisan decisions, these are bipartisan decisions.”

Buono said: “You vetoed a bipartisan job-creation package and called it a pile of crap.”

The facts: Christie has worked with Democratic leaders to enact two budgets, a property tax cap, public employee benefits changes, higher-education reorganization and an overhaul of state tax incentives. But he remains at an impasse with Democrats over affordable housing, same-sex marriage, minimumwage increases and his appointments to the state Supreme Court. He also enacted two of his budgets only after line-item vetoing Democratic spending bills. Buono voted against the public-employee pension and benefits changes and the latest state spending plan, but she voted for a bipartisan job-creation package vetoed by Christie.